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Pete on January 27th, 2004

Because it always seems to take twice before people stop coming back, let’s get this out of the way. MVM, which we find out stands for Matt, decides to try his hand at fisking. Let’s see how he fares.

(PS: this if fucking long, too… and you probably don’t care.)

Ok Pete, let’s cut the bullshit.
I venture to guess that you’d have very little to say without it.


Why don’t you see the problem people have with you?
False assumption #1: I don’t see the problem.

I see the problem, I just don’t care. I’d also like to point out that there aren’t very many people who have taken the time to get to know me. They’re still welcome to hate me, of course, but it just means that their opinion of me has very little merit in my mind. FYI: you’re one of these people.


You have this want, this need, to always show to your peers that you are more intelligent than everyone else you come in contact with.
False assumption #2: Matt assumes he knows me.

I enjoy pointing out when people can’t argue their way out of a paper bag. Most of the readers here are similarly entertained to see it done. It has nothing to do with relative levels of intelligence or showing off. I’ve come into contact with a great many people far more intelligent than myself, I promise. I thought about expounding on this a little more, but decided against it.


That is my OPINION about you from reading your response to me, and your responses to other people, and yes, I have read enough.
Read enough… to make poor assumptions? Great. Congratulations. I’m more than my website just as I’m sure you’re more than these posts. In fact, you’re probably not a total moron — as these comments might suggest. This is why I wouldn’t drag myself to your website/blog/house and criticize you. I’m better than that. I have no qualms, however, with defending myself and my opinions from ill-informed commenters, like yourself.


That is the problem many people most likely have with you.
So you like to break down what people write and “attempt” to always prove your higher intelligence over them?

See above.


Well, I guess with ego-swelled heads like you, it takes the same dose of medicine to make a point…I’m not going to “break down” everything, but will hit a few, so let me give it a try:
For how much psycho-analysis you’re doing, you’d think you knew me. To quote a great many trashy talk-show guests: “YOU DON’T KNOW ME!”


“it must be noted that over half of the times this person has visited it’s been from Nick Borghardt’s “website”… just so you know.” - You have nothing better to do in your life, or nothing much to study in law school, to actually spend time tracking people I assume. How anal are you? Well, congrats Sherlock Holiday, yes, I found your site from Nick’s blog, is that a crime that I find your site from someone whom you can’t stand b/c, hmm lemme guess, YOU PLAY THE WHO’S MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THE OTHER game with him! And the ‘just so you know’ - translation into more intelligible English: You all know I hate Nick Borghardt with a passion, and this guy must be friends with him.
Just to show how well you know me, and how well you seem to have “read enough” — I’m not a law school student. I’m a computer science undergrad. I made no assertions about the fact that you visited from Nick’s site… just pointed it out. There’s no crime in visiting from there, and I don’t hate Nick. I don’t respect him. I don’t care for him. But I don’t hate him. Anyone who knows me can tell you that.


“..is that this masked person — obviously to enamored by their own skill to leave a name” - hey ego-maniac, I left my initials for ya, I think that qualifies as identification, but since you like to berate people and always once again show your brilliance to the whole world, M stands for Matt, I hope that pleases your little world. And “to enamored “? I believe you meant “too enamored”. HUKED ONN SPELLING WURKED FORE ME!! See? I nailed you twice there…and I don’t like to play these little childish games that you like to play apparently, but I came out pretty good there with that last one? Bit ya right back in the ass, huh!?
Guess I should’ve proof-read, huh? Whoops. Touche.


“The worst thing is that I MADE you visit the site 29 times in the last two weeks.” - Again, is there not enough for you to do in law school? I’ve heard from friends in law school and my own cousin that all one has time for is to read and study, with no time for anything else, so where you get the hours and hours to track people you don’t know, I guess we will never know.
I tried it again, just to test, and it took me roughly two and a half minutes to find out how many times you’ve visited and from where. It’s not hard when you know how.


“As for labels… I used one… “arrogant white girl.” The last two are a given, and the first I can easily justify given my opinion of what arrogance is. No falseness there.” - You don’t get it in your thick, ego head. I don’t care if the label is false or not false, in a logical debate or conversation with someone, YOU DON’T LABEL PEOPLE YOU DON’T KNOW! That is what the “arrogant white girl” has a problem with, what I have a problem with, and the same problem everyone else with whom you try to outshine your intelligence over. She clearly states, “Since you don’t know me either, you cannot make comments about the people in my medical class, more people you DON’T KNOW.” That and labeling people, such as arrogant white girl is how you aggravate and annoy people you try to talk to or debate with. Yes, criticizing opinions is okay, I agree with you there, but not labeling like what you did.
For starters that label was used in the PS of an entry which only vaguely related to the debate, not in the debate itself. You may not have cared if the label was false, but “falsely” was the adverb you used to modify “labeling.” Second, allow me to point out that Lauren took a generalization I made, applied it to her class, found some exceptions, and then claimed I was making statements directed at members of her class. I wasn’t. I was making general statements and she felt that they didn’t apply to her friends. Third — maybe someone else wants to try to help Matt with punctuation and sentence order in the above tirade? I don’t have the enthusiasm for it at the moment.


“You appear ill-equipped to argue here. Go back to school and return when you’ve learned a thing or two about logic, reason, and the English language.” - Man, how childish is that. Trust me, not one shiver went down my spine from that…I know you are trying to, once again and bluntly, show your superior intelligence over me, just like you do with everyone else. Sorry, you don’t phase me. And again, you go criticizing people whom you don’t know and have never met. So do I know a thing or two about the English language and logic? Well, considering I graduated with a degree in COMMUNICATIONS, and I work at a television station, I believe I know plenty about logic and of the English language, since the news YOU get from us is written with logic and in the English language!
The logic above is stunning.

- Hypocrisy: “you go criticizing people whom you don’t know and have never met” (And you’re doing what, exactly?)

- Appeal to false authority: “I graduated with a degree in COMMUNICATIONS.” (Who said having a degree meant you knew anything?)

- False assumption: “I work at a television station, I believe I know plenty about logic and of the English language” (Assumption: Everyone who works at a television station knows about logic and English)

- False assumption: “since the news YOU get from us is written with logic and in the English language!” (I watch almost no substantive TV, and I certainly doubt that I watch your station.)


So there dude. I hope I don’t ever have to do that again, b/c it is not fun, it is really childish, especially saying I need to learn a thing or two about the English language and logic and reasoning….I know mocking people, or trying to belittle people is your specialty and your game in your little pathetic world, but please dude, grow up.
Honestly, folks, I have never seen more hypocrisy slathered on ONE little diatribe. Might as well be the Pope berating a Cardinal for being Catholic.


I have my career taking off in television, I enjoy life with plenty of friends, and I don’t normally argue like this.
and what? You want a cookie or something? Congratulations, I’m proud of you. Seriously, though, I hope you don’t normally argue like this, because it can’t be done much worse. I’m just going to take you at your word and assume that this kind of nonsense is you on a bad day, because I don’t think ANYONE would claim that you’re making a very strong case.


But when I see a conversation you have with someone, and then crudely label them, that is totally wrong and immature.
Once again, the label wasn’t a part of the conversation and I find it curious that you can, with a straight face, accuse me of labeling someone and then label me as “immature” in the same sentence.


Sure we all label celebrities when we talk gossip talk, so-and-so is a rich self-centered bitch, Ben and Jen are trash, blah blah, whatever. But you’re not talking to them. With people you TALK with, not only friends but people whom you don’t even know, like the arrogant white girl, you don’t label them after a debate or conversation, b/c that shows your lack of respect for people and immature nature when they see that.
Moral relativism rears it’s ugly head. If it’s wrong to do to one person, it’s wrong to do period. I’m still not sure you’ve made the case, though, that labeling people is wrong when it’s true. I don’t you our Lauren and more than I know Ben and Jen — except they don’t come to my website and post garbage, so I do respect them for that.


I read all of your unofficial CKI website crap. All that showed to me was you trying to show your rebellion against the CKI International Board or Kiwanis, or both, b/c of what the official website offered.
When you assume bad faith, everything looks evil and treacherous, doesn’t it? We did what we did for the good of the membership. Period. You can hold another opinion if you’d like, but you’ll be wrong. End of story.


As long as you have your fans worshipping (sic) you and your supposed intelligence, you’re happy…and from what I see with Kim’s “go Pete”, and Rach’s “my favorite part was the huked on fonicks”, you have your little followers, and you have your worshippers (sic) of your supposed intelligence. Be happy.
If any of my “followers” would like to post a rebuttal (either in the comments or as a main entry) let me know. I’ll just answer this by saying that you know them even less than you know me. That’s not worship, it’s positive feedback to being entertained. Trust me, those folks know better than to “worship” me.


Even Lauren knows of your Nick-bashing, we’ve read your comments to him, we saw the whole ‘i hate nick b/c he is against my unofficial website and he is rallying people against me’ fiasco….
I don’t know what my dislike for Nick has to do with this argument. In any case, see above.


yes, we know of all that crap. And you can’t Nick go either, you’re going to bash and mock him the rest of your life, and you and he are always going to be playing the little game of who is more intelligent,
No, I probably won’t. In fact, in the grand scheme of things, I’ve really had very little to say about him. If you’d like, i can provide you with some numbers as to how many times I’ve referenced Nick as compared to how many times I’ve posted since I met him. Taking a few shots at the guy doesn’t mean I’m obsessing.


and the ‘my law school is better than LSU law school’ games….i read those comments on Nick’s blog as well….it’s just you and him, back and forth, trying to outdo the other. Let him go dude!
I posted, I believe, two comments. That hardly qualifies as “back and forth” when there were a dozen or more comments on the post. PS: Still not in law school. You might notice the little box on the sidebar that talks about my law school applications. Most people who are in law school don’t apply to them anymore. Just a thought.


And stop bashing and labeling people you don’t know, like me.
Thanks for playing! And let it go.

My house, my rules. I bash and label people I don’t like here. If that’s not acceptable to you, don’t come back.


I do have one favor to ask, though. Next time you want to post something that obscenely long, please don’t do it in my comments. I’ll usually be more than happy to publish your longer comments in a main entry — I’m just going to start deleting the long ones.

16 Responses to “Hypocrisy, Unlimited”

  1. Pete - why didn’t you tell me you were in law school?!? Oh that’s right - because you’re not.
    I read the whole thing, but the part about his communications degree and logic being positively correlated - that’s just dumb. Being on TV has nothing to do with being logical; in fact, one would probably be able argue the exact opposite.
    To Matt (since I know you’ll be back): thanks for the publicity! I love to see my name on websites, even if they wrongly imply that I’m someone’s bitch. I happen to be a friend of Pete’s, and I love it when dumb people like you (hopefully this labeling will warrant yet another comment and post) just hand him ammunition to use against yourself. I find it amusing, so keep up the good work! I do ask one favor though: call Pete something other than “dude.”

  2. Yeah… I like “buddy”, “brother”, “man”, or “chief.”

  3. I certainly don’t worship Pete. In fact, sometimes I downright can’t stand him. But, he often does a damn good job of entertaining, and I appreciate that.

    I wasn’t labeled as one of the followers, but thought I’d throw my two cents in here.

  4. Who knew that someone of such *high intelligence* would use everday slang like “dude” and “b/c”….:D

  5. Being labeled a “follower” is an interesting one coming from one who knows so little about me and the reason behind my comment. I’ve known Pete for a good number of years now and come to read this site to be updated on the events in Pete’s life and to be entertained by his ramblings. Being told that I “worship” Pete by someone who doesn’t even know me or my relationship with Pete is just downright silly…okay granted, if you looked at my blog there is a little bit of worship but more in humor than anything. Pete and I don’t always see eye to eye on things but we can always hold an intelligent conversation/discussion/argument about it and at the end of the night, we are still friends. Maybe some people need to stop taking things written in “personal journals” so seriously and just grow up!

    Love ya Pete!

  6. MVM - Mike Misuraca
    January 27th, 2004 at 6:10 pm

    Ok “man”, and I will try to keep this brief, b/c now I know I’ve won when I’m dealing with kids younger than me, when you said that you are an undergrad, now I know the level of intelligence I am dealing with, which still needs some maturity time, but that’s okay, we all go through college…I did, and you are. But I now see from your obvious college level response that there is no point I, or anyone for that matter, should argue with you ever. Here is why, and I quote:

    “Why don’t you see the problem people have with you?
    False assumption #1: I don’t see the problem.
    I see the problem, I just don’t care.”
    And that is where your case ends “buddy.”. Not just myself, but no one can hold a logical conversation or debate with you.
    If you are debating with someone, and you show that you don’t care what their stance or opinion is, or if someone has a problem with what you say or do, and you don’t care to address it, that person loses all respect for you and sees that there is no point in talking or debating with you. Ask anyone that and you will see I am not being “illogical” here when I say that. Why try to debate a point, if the stubborn person you are talking to will never think, “hey that’s a good point, or hey, he could be right.” What’s the point then? And that is the problem with you, and you just admitted it. So with that, I can’t debate with you, it is pointless. And no one else can…you will always be right in your mind, and that is just dumb.
    And Rach, you’re obviously in the same boat with him, if you can’t understand how important a college degree is yet, well, you’ll learn. I can’t debate with that closed “dumb” mind either. You’ll just retort with some high school-ish, “well, you’re just dumb because blah blah blah…you give him ammunition to use and it’s funny blah blah blah.” Same mentality as him. All he is doing is just trying to show-off his so-called intelligence to the world, and at the same time, not care about what other people have to say in debates and talks. Closed, stubborn, high school mentality minds is what I am dealing with here, and I am actually wasting my time trying to prove a point by writing. So let me end by once again, STOOPING TO YOUR LEVEL, and, remember saying to me and I quote:
    “Go back to school and return when you’ve learned a thing or two about logic, reason, and the English language.” Well, let me take your medicine, stoop down to your little undergrad level, and shove it right back at your ego-balloonned head by saying, YOU need to FINISH school and return talking to me when YOU’VE learned a thing or two about logic, reason, and ego-filled people for your sake, and the English language.
    With that, I think I just won this battle, thank you, good-bye, and good-night.

  7. Well I’m sad to see you go - it’s been fun!

  8. Pete - don’t you think it’s funny how one automatically becomes smart, logical, etc. because he/she has a degree? And obviously those 3 logic classes I took count for nothing…

  9. And humerous that he assumed that all of us did not have degrees…I for one have a Master’s Degree…guess that must make me real smart. ;)

  10. Wow… I never knew a post about an African American of the year contest could start up so much shit! HEHE!

  11. It’s really great to know that when I graduate in 3 months, I will be SO much smarter and more mature than I am now. It’s the piece of paper that makes you smart and mature… why didn’t I ever know this!?!

  12. For the record, I don’t worship Pete. I sent in $29.95 to Sally Struthers and got his picture. Then Pete wrote me a letter. I paid less than the cup of coffee a day and Pete got clothes, food, and a clean place to sleep for years. Every once in a while, Pete would send a letter.

    Then Pete got a blog. I quit sending the cup of coffee money, but he keeps posting anyway. Curiously, I haven’t received a picture, though.

    Damn Sally Struthers.

  13. I don’t worship Pete either, I saw him at a PWWF(People Who Wear Flannel) Convention, I was a janitor sweeping up. I was like woah that guy is cool. He has all the women.

  14. Kevin, I don’t think you want pictures.

  15. cheddah’s bettah

  16. Actually, I’m so entertained right now, that I’d like to start worshiping Pete. Is there a signup fee? Also, my dad works at a paper mill and can get cheap reams of paper. I can probably print up some degrees if that would help anyone. Or loan mine out maybe?